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Talking About Clothes with Holly Chayes

Jul 11, 2023

In this episode, Shehla and I talk about developing her personal style growing up in Pakistan, and the culture shock of shopping for clothes in the US. We discuss the contrast between shopping for clothing designed to fit a standardized set of measurements versus clothing that is custom-made for you and your body and your preferences.


We originally recorded this conversation in 2021, and I'm so excited to share it with you.


We do talk a lot about bodies and sizing in this episode, so if that is something that is sensitive to you, please, please listen with care or listen in next time.


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